Full Version: Arab Leaders Dancing At A Private Party With Israelis !
Did you miss the incident when Lebanese Generals served tea to Israeli invading forces whilst Hizbollah fought to save Lebanon?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/17/...main/index.html
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/215320/leban...eral_held_over/
The leader of thier government cried on TV... rather than ordering his military to fight the invaders...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/17/...main/index.html
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/215320/leban...eral_held_over/
The leader of thier government cried on TV... rather than ordering his military to fight the invaders...
Aoa
Live today, fight tomorrow? Or maybe a strategic retreat... OR maybe they didn't want to get killed because of Hizbullah?
OR maybe the same reason why we don't attach the US when it bombs some of our territory...
w/salaam
Live today, fight tomorrow? Or maybe a strategic retreat... OR maybe they didn't want to get killed because of Hizbullah?
OR maybe the same reason why we don't attach the US when it bombs some of our territory...
w/salaam
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Mar 16 2008, 03:08 PM) 
Did you miss the incident when Lebanese Generals served tea to Israeli invading forces whilst Hizbollah fought to save Lebanon?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/17/...main/index.html
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/215320/leban...eral_held_over/
The leader of thier government cried on TV... rather than ordering his military to fight the invaders...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/17/...main/index.html
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/215320/leban...eral_held_over/
The leader of thier government cried on TV... rather than ordering his military to fight the invaders...
its no wonder. the Lebanese Military is entirely (Catholic Maronis). Lebanese PM (Sunni) can't have control over them.
pathetic video. why does it include King Abdullah of KSA ?
i heard about that too. Al Siniorah is Sunni PM , he can't have control over the Catholic Maroni military because only their general who has control. Hizbullah fought to save Iranian interests not to save Lebanon in any way.
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Mar 16 2008, 03:08 PM)
Did you miss the incident when Lebanese Generals served tea to Israeli invading forces whilst Hizbollah fought to save Lebanon?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/17/...main/index.html
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/215320/leban...eral_held_over/
The leader of thier government cried on TV... rather than ordering his military to fight the invaders...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/17/...main/index.html
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/215320/leban...eral_held_over/
The leader of thier government cried on TV... rather than ordering his military to fight the invaders...
i heard about that too. Al Siniorah is Sunni PM , he can't have control over the Catholic Maroni military because only their general who has control. Hizbullah fought to save Iranian interests not to save Lebanon in any way.
Thinking, who were the ones who actually participated in the war against Israel?
Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Occupied Palestine.
Who carried on?
Iran, PLO, PLLF, Syria, Lebanon, and Algeria, from the days of Muhummad Boudia, Carlos, and Yasser Arafat, till today.
Shame on the rest!
Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Occupied Palestine.
Who carried on?
Iran, PLO, PLLF, Syria, Lebanon, and Algeria, from the days of Muhummad Boudia, Carlos, and Yasser Arafat, till today.
Shame on the rest!
QUOTE(Shehz @ Mar 16 2008, 05:01 PM)
Thinking, who were the ones who actually participated in the war against Israel?
Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Occupied Palestine.
Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Occupied Palestine.
you forgot Saudi Arabia , Iraq , Algeria , Kuwait , Libya & others
in open war we can go but in NORMAL times all we can do support them diplomatically.Iran and arab states can donate and they are doing this.
QUOTE(SaudiArabian @ Mar 16 2008, 10:23 AM)
you forgot Saudi Arabia , Iraq , Algeria , Kuwait , Libya & others
Speaches and phone calls don't count.
Yeah, I forgot Libya, I'm sorry.
Algeria came in with PLO later, not the 6 day war, but they came (physically).
Iraq, yes, with Scuds, but only when US strikes occured, not before.
What others? I said speaches don't count, we hear them everyday.
QUOTE(hassan @ Mar 16 2008, 10:38 AM)
in open war we can go but in NORMAL times all we can do support them diplomatically.Iran and arab states can donate and they are doing this.
Not even a miniscule fraction of Iran/Hamas/Hizbullah.
They might be spending a lot on OIC conferences, arranging press conferences for their speaches, how does that help?
Why the hell is king adullah amongst them? The others I can understand….But he is no friend of Israel.
Mind you the video is funny.
Mind you the video is funny.
QUOTE(Shehz @ Mar 16 2008, 06:01 PM)
Speaches and phone calls don't count.
Yeah, I forgot Libya, I'm sorry.
Algeria came in with PLO later, not the 6 day war, but they came (physically).
Iraq, yes, with Scuds, but only when US strikes occured, not before.
What others? I said speaches don't count, we hear them everyday.
Yeah, I forgot Libya, I'm sorry.
Algeria came in with PLO later, not the 6 day war, but they came (physically).
Iraq, yes, with Scuds, but only when US strikes occured, not before.
What others? I said speaches don't count, we hear them everyday.
why do you talk about something when you have no idea about it ?
all the states i mentioned have participated in all/some of the wars on israel (in case of KSA , it participated militarly in all Arab israeli wars 1948 , 1956 , 1967 , 1973)
Iraq didn't just participate with Scuds. it was involved long before that. Shehz , your ignorance on Arab-israeli wars is very huge. don't talk about it before reading enough.
QUOTE(Shehz @ Mar 16 2008, 10:01 AM)
Iraq, yes, with Scuds, but only when US strikes occured, not before.
You need to read up on some history dude. The Iraqi military deployed to Syria in 1973 against Israel. The Syrian military was pretty much done for and the Israelis were gearing up for an offensive all the towards Damascus. Right then the Iraqi military happened to show up. Had it not been for the Iraqi military back in 1973, I would have no doubt the Israelis would have taken over all of Damascus and the map of the Middle East would by no doubt be extremely different today and that too in Israel's favor.
Iraq, ok I take my words back.
Show me Kuwait and/or Saudi Arabia, in any war, wherever.
6 Day War http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761570...day_war.html#s5
KSA Wars History http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/sat/saudi/findex.htm
Poorer than most OIC states, and at that time, even weaker, but PAF Pilots, here we come http://jaganpvs.tripod.com/pakpilots.htm
Saudi Arabian, you asked me to read, I did.
Now would you please begin to read yourself.
Try TinTin and the Red Sea Sharks this time.
Show me Kuwait and/or Saudi Arabia, in any war, wherever.
6 Day War http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761570...day_war.html#s5
QUOTE
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3584.htm
Saudi forces did not participate in the Six-Day (Arab-Israeli) War of June 1967, but the government later provided annual subsidies to Egypt, Jordan, and Syria to support their economies. During the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, Saudi Arabia participated in the Arab oil boycott of the United States and Netherlands. A member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), Saudi Arabia had joined other member countries in moderate oil price increases beginning in 1971. After the 1973 war, the price of oil rose substantially, dramatically increasing Saudi Arabia's wealth and political influence.
Saudi forces did not participate in the Six-Day (Arab-Israeli) War of June 1967, but the government later provided annual subsidies to Egypt, Jordan, and Syria to support their economies. During the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, Saudi Arabia participated in the Arab oil boycott of the United States and Netherlands. A member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), Saudi Arabia had joined other member countries in moderate oil price increases beginning in 1971. After the 1973 war, the price of oil rose substantially, dramatically increasing Saudi Arabia's wealth and political influence.
KSA Wars History http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/sat/saudi/findex.htm
Poorer than most OIC states, and at that time, even weaker, but PAF Pilots, here we come http://jaganpvs.tripod.com/pakpilots.htm
Saudi Arabian, you asked me to read, I did.
Now would you please begin to read yourself.
Try TinTin and the Red Sea Sharks this time.
QUOTE(Shehz @ Mar 17 2008, 10:39 PM)
Iraq, ok I take my words back.
Show me Kuwait and/or Saudi Arabia, in any war, wherever.
6 Day War http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761570...day_war.html#s5
KSA Wars History http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/sat/saudi/findex.htm
Poorer than most OIC states, and at that time, even weaker, but PAF Pilots, here we come http://jaganpvs.tripod.com/pakpilots.htm
Saudi Arabian, you asked me to read, I did.
Now would you please begin to read yourself.
Try TinTin and the Red Sea Sharks this time.
Show me Kuwait and/or Saudi Arabia, in any war, wherever.
6 Day War http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761570...day_war.html#s5
KSA Wars History http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/sat/saudi/findex.htm
Poorer than most OIC states, and at that time, even weaker, but PAF Pilots, here we come http://jaganpvs.tripod.com/pakpilots.htm
Saudi Arabian, you asked me to read, I did.
Now would you please begin to read yourself.
Try TinTin and the Red Sea Sharks this time.
reading these websites isn't useful , wasting your time on watching cartoons isn't going to help you either.
the "onwar" website is pathetic and improffessional and totally unacademic , it doesn't even mention the Saudi-SouthYemen war in 1969. the US state department information is wrong. KSA participated in 1967 by deploying large number of its forces on Jordanian territory where they participated in battles and clashes with israeli forces on borders. the Saudi forces in Jordan estimated at 20000 troopers. they were withdrawn from Jordan 10 years later in 1977.
read professional books on that war written by Arab officers who fought in it (exept Egyptian-written books because of the Saudi-Egpytian wars they didn't care to mention about Saudi participation in Arab Israeli wars despite our support). not some silly websites.
QUOTE(SaudiArabian @ Mar 17 2008, 04:25 PM)
reading these websites isn't useful , wasting your time on watching cartoons isn't going to help you either.
the "onwar" website is pathetic and improffessional and totally unacademic , it doesn't even mention the Saudi-SouthYemen war in 1969. the US state department information is wrong. KSA participated in 1967 by deploying large number of its forces on Jordanian territory where they participated in battles and clashes with israeli forces on borders. the Saudi forces in Jordan estimated at 20000 troopers. they were withdrawn from Jordan 10 years later in 1977.
read professional books on that war written by Arab officers who fought in it (exept Egyptian-written books because of the Saudi-Egpytian wars they didn't care to mention about Saudi participation in Arab Israeli wars despite our support). not some silly websites.
the "onwar" website is pathetic and improffessional and totally unacademic , it doesn't even mention the Saudi-SouthYemen war in 1969. the US state department information is wrong. KSA participated in 1967 by deploying large number of its forces on Jordanian territory where they participated in battles and clashes with israeli forces on borders. the Saudi forces in Jordan estimated at 20000 troopers. they were withdrawn from Jordan 10 years later in 1977.
read professional books on that war written by Arab officers who fought in it (exept Egyptian-written books because of the Saudi-Egpytian wars they didn't care to mention about Saudi participation in Arab Israeli wars despite our support). not some silly websites.
For you truth is rubbish, grow up.
All KSA does is throw money, and holds the 2 Holy Mosques, even Qatari's are more brave.
Read the Red Sea Sharks, the Emir is the king and Abdallah's antics are identical to yours.
QUOTE
http://www.pro-pakistan.com/2008/01/
Pakistan went too far ahead and actively helped the Arab armies against the Israel. Both in Six Days War in 1967 and Yom Kippur War in 1973, Pakistani pilots fought along side the Arabs and shot down around 10 Israeli aircrafts. Israel was never used to such losses in dog fights.
With the passage of time, Arabs realized the reality and went ahead with the normalization of relations with Israel while Pakistan was left on it’s own.
Pakistan went too far ahead and actively helped the Arab armies against the Israel. Both in Six Days War in 1967 and Yom Kippur War in 1973, Pakistani pilots fought along side the Arabs and shot down around 10 Israeli aircrafts. Israel was never used to such losses in dog fights.
With the passage of time, Arabs realized the reality and went ahead with the normalization of relations with Israel while Pakistan was left on it’s own.
No matter how rubbish a link it is, just show us 1 link which says KSA fought against Israel.
Just one link dude, your word doesn't count (either)!
My claims are always backed by minimum 2 links.
QUOTE(Shehz @ Mar 17 2008, 11:36 PM)
For you truth is rubbish, grow up.
All KSA does is throw money, and holds the 2 Holy Mosques, even Qatari's are more brave.
Read the Red Sea Sharks, the Emir is the king and Abdallah's antics are identical to yours.
All KSA does is throw money, and holds the 2 Holy Mosques, even Qatari's are more brave.
Read the Red Sea Sharks, the Emir is the king and Abdallah's antics are identical to yours.
you're talking about yourself , Shehz.
can you read Arabic ?
Yes I can, but don't bother to.
Heard of Google translation?
Heard of Google translation?
QUOTE(Shehz @ Mar 17 2008, 11:40 PM)
Yes I can, but don't bother to.
Heard of Google translation?
Heard of Google translation?
then enjoy time reading this military assesment article on the battle between Saudi and israeli forces in 1973 on 20-21 October in the Tel Mar'ei on Syrian frontline
http://www.al-difaa.com/Detail.asp?InNewsItemID=11713
or browse Desert Warrior encyclopedia in the documents sector and search and read one of Anwar Al Sadat statements where he honors the Kuwaiti & Iraqi forces on his soil.
Timeline October 1973 = Yom Kippur War.
Except for your link, no other credible link mentions Saudi Arabia is an active participant.
Guess, I'll give KSA the benefit of the doubt here.
Except for your link, no other credible link mentions Saudi Arabia is an active participant.
Guess, I'll give KSA the benefit of the doubt here.
Olmert looks so delirious
QUOTE(Shehz @ Mar 17 2008, 08:32 PM)
Timeline October 1973 = Yom Kippur War.
Except for your link, no other credible link mentions Saudi Arabia is an active participant.
Guess, I'll give KSA the benefit of the doubt here.
Except for your link, no other credible link mentions Saudi Arabia is an active participant.
Guess, I'll give KSA the benefit of the doubt here.
It does not make a difference.
Firstly the Muslims were united on nationalism and hatred of Jews rather than love for Islam and Justice.
Secondly they were not just fighting Israel as the media portrayed, they were fighting 1 Israeli State + 50 American States + European allies V 5 or so Muslim States that bothered to fight or support the effort, even that would have been enough for the infidels if the Muslims were half decent Muslims! but it was secular nationalists v zionist Jews with Christianised American support, so Allah gives Victory to whom he pleases.
Point is Israel has support of America and most of Europe, until there is a decline in American power and a serious Islamic awareness among the Muslim states, they cannot realistically attempt another conflict.
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Mar 16 2008, 12:08 PM)
Did you miss the incident when Lebanese Generals served tea to Israeli invading forces whilst Hizbollah fought to save Lebanon?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/17/...main/index.html
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/215320/leban...eral_held_over/
The leader of thier government cried on TV... rather than ordering his military to fight the invaders...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/17/...main/index.html
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/215320/leban...eral_held_over/
The leader of thier government cried on TV... rather than ordering his military to fight the invaders...
What fukin kanjars!!! Their whole army is a shame! They stood by while their whole country was bombed!
QUOTE(Sardar @ Mar 17 2008, 10:58 PM)
It does not make a difference.
Yeah it does!
We assisted them in 67 and 73.
They give fiery speaches at OIC Conferences and then when we give a call for assistance during Kargil, US sanctions mean more to them than Ummah?
China, not part of OIC, no speeches, openly defied US Sanctions and assisted us during Kargil.
And these so called Muslim States do nothing more than speeches at OIC Summits, and you claim it doesn't make any difference?
What are you talking about!
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