I think any educated person with having some honesty will never ever try to justify his claims by posting somthing from Wikipedia.

wikipedia is the MOST unauthentic source to quote for even a Sh.it


And your compaign against mr Zaid and his program should have rung a bell at least f your BSsssssss so far you have posted should have been taken care of

well Mr.|| Miss JANA, (trying to guess from your language), I respect your view in either case.
I am not against Mr. Zaid and I support most of stuff he talks about.
and we can always discuss if you have any problem with my views about him.
I just say that currently some people like Ahmed Quershi and Your Sir. Zaid are being misused to confuse public about Musharaf. it may end up into suspension of another democratic govt in Pakistan. and it will be really bad for both our army and country.
I care about army, as I have been a part of it.
slogans like Ghazwa e Hind are exciting, but it doesn't justify another Ghazwa on Islamabad. this is exactly what COAS means, when he talks about keeping army away from politics.


few days back, I talked about Mr. Zaid making funny mistakes during his programs, and yesterday, I have just compiled a list of them at runtime, while listening the latest episode.
if list is wrong, you can prove it. wikipedia is "BAD" but they can't afford to lie about the size of issues you are angry about.


here are more refrences for u.
http://books.google.com/books?id=SpofCsEZ0...8&ct=result
http://www.jstor.org/pss/259436
Istanbul Under Allied Occupation, 1918-1923 (Ottoman Empire and Its Heritage) (Library Binding)
by Bilge Criss (Author), Nur Bilge Criss (Author)
a 114 dollar book

http://www.amazon.com/Istanbul-Occupation-...e/dp/9004112596
let me know if you need more.

btw, it would be a constructive effort if you can tell Sir. Zaid to do better homework for his programs, or get the script screened from me before he reads it on TV. I m serious, (I will do it free of any cost, after Musharaf leaves the office.)

It is not the poingt whether you are against him or not. What matters is that you are trying to block some light which is being spread in a situation where your democraps are all carrying a sinster agenda and that too for pesonal gains.

Now as far as his reading from the paper well for your kind information he never reads from paper. I am saying so beacuse i had seen the paper you are talking about its just like table of contents and not like the one you are talking about.

Anyway brasstacks donst protect or support Musharraf.

BTW i recall your accusation about he and qureshi bought the gold :) what a pathatic blam by you since you dont know Sir Zaid. He even dosnt own a house.

And one more thing why dont you meet him to know the reality


Regards Jana (miss) ;)

sorry that buying gold thing was just a humor.(I remember I used the word guess or may be.)

yes he talks without paper. working some more on accuracy of content can make him more reliable.
I feel very odd about his bundling with Ahmad qureshi lobby.(an open Musharaf supporter)
this Jamaluddin Afghani needs to avoid Mustafa Kamals.
I am currently abroad, but we can use email, or this forum to talk.

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Quaid-e-Azam speech that is refrenced in episode

Mr. Zaid looks more accurate and confident today. He is getting more agressive. he needs to be protected.
just a minor comment that "Masawana taqseem" is bad urdu,. it should be "Masawiana taqseem.", he used this term several times during the episode.
part 1@ 3:42 very unprofessional moan by new program hostess.
again ohh at part 1 6:05, 6:44
another wow at part3 5:39

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Thank you Ababeel!... Really enjoyed your posts!

impressive

some people have typical pakistani attitude on this thread, try to act over clever & find faults in scholars. what can we do...

thanks for classifying me as a scholar...........I don't claim to be one.

Coming back to Zaid sahib, I v just seen part 4 of Yaum e Takbir special. it is impressive too, but..................he repeated another sentence again, that I feel is highly inaccurate. "Iraq sab say bara Muslim Mulk tha".
we don't need to go to a library for to confirm this.

By chance, I have lived in Iraq for 7 years of my life, at peak of its peace and war both. Iraq was best welfare state among Arab countries. But it has never been sab say bara musalman mulk. rather it changed to sab say bura mulk when it decided to strangle Iran with no good reason, just using linguistic, ethnic, and Nationalistic hate, and calling it Qadsyah 2. majority of Arabs think same about it even today................like SaudiArabian here.
I was brought up in Ramadi and Fallujah, so don't just guess that I am talking from Najaf or Karbala. Yet I want to blame Iraq for fate of Ummah today. my street friends died in Gulf war 1, and then Iraq war, and I feel the pain of Iraqi nation. but it doesn't justify the "original sin" of attacking Iran for no good reason. instead may be the logical progression of that sin.

in numbers you can compare Iraq with Sindh + Balochistan provinces of Pakistan (exclude Karachi, Hyderabad, Quetta to to balance the population)

Neighbouring Iran and saudia are 4 and 5 times bigger in size.
Neighbouring Turkey and Iran are both more than double of Iraq in population.

Muslim country Sudan is 6 times larger than Iraq by area.
Muslim Indonesia is 8 times bigger, and Pakistan is some 6 times bigger than Iraq.(by population)


good scholars need to be more accurate.

I was talking about Zaid Hamed being a scholar and people finding faults in his videos.

achaaaaaaa...........sorry I thought u r trying to be humbel and praising me.............
but u know I don't say I am a scholar.

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I think now he is talking about smoother transition solutions, that are more realistic and lesser ambitious

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the figures of world food output and shortage are highly inaccurate.
3000 billion tonnes and 1100 billion tonnes per year as he said.
it means every person in world eating 1.3 tonne food per day.
simple fix is to replace billion with million, or tonne with kg.
then it may be ok, around 3 lb per person per day.

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part 5, 2:15, Luqman most likely doesn't know that Ottoman Empire is not about Hazrat Usman (RA).
we r really poor @ history.
I hope Zaid sb knows the difference, but he didn't try to clarify either.

Luqman doesn't know that "blessed chidren of Israel" mentioned in Darood e Ibrahimi, are about pre Jesus. they got cursed since they tried to kill Hazrat Isa (AS).

After Islam came, Jews are "Maghzoob e Alaihim" due to refuting Islam.

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^^^^ One of the best program I have seen on Pakistan Independence to date.

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part 10 and 11 have been removed by the user, please bring them back.

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Without doubt this guy is a very good orator like Musharraf!

Being good orator is fine, but more important question is "whome does he represent"?
there is so much mess all around due to the "Chor bhi kahay chor chor" theory, that we can't decide who is true and who is lying.
in this program, he is working as mouthpiece of Musharaf, telling "Conspiracy theory" responsible for fall of Musharaf.
here are major paradoxes they won't talk about.
two largest reasons of Moshe's fall are, Suspension of CJ and Lal Masjid. both were done by musharaf to please USA.
how he can blame others for this situation?

Schmuck

Bro,

Just want to talk about this LM issue. (Not relating to Zaid Hamid's view)...Something I never got understand was behavior of our media. Everyone in media was aware the outcome of a action in LM but still media around 2-3 days prior to operation start telling about the problems of locals due to curfew... and they only showing peoples saying that Govt. must end this situation now. I was wondering why everyone is demanding an action no one was talking about negotiations and anything else. Another think, Media pre-action and post-action was totally different. Remember, death of colon (don't remember name) and all those guys with guns and gas masks firing on police and rangers. BUT after operation media was totally painting another side, totally opposite. No body was talking about extremism. Only thing on media was; MASOOM BACHE and PAK ARMY KA ZULAM.

Now thing is what was media playing:

1- Just to fill the air time with "whatever they got"... (Like most of time they do)

2- Was not aware of anything and were force to change their views after operation.

3- Was doing it on saying of someone.... (To defame Army)

Another thing which i am not able to get is what about causalities of SSG. 12 dead on spot and some 20 odd injured... Why media never showed them just for once? NO body knows even the name of any single one of those who died (from SSG). Did Army asked media not to report any of those men who died in operation?

When i start thinking about all this keeping otherside in mind; I really got confused. I remember, World View From Islamabad's episode when AQ asked Zaid, "What Govt. must do now?"...Reply from Zaid was ,"Agar Islamabad se 400 ya 500 lashee nikle tu bohat bura ho ga..." unfortunately this was exactly what happened. Now this think will go into history for very long time and it will keeping teasing us as a nation and it will keep raising questions about loyalty of our troops to people.

WE RELAY PISSED OFF by this damn operation. (So many suicide bombing in pretext of LM)

AS for as 3rd Nov. is concerned.... I am 1000% agree with you. 3rd Nov. and NRO were two eorst things Musharraf gave us and these two things will remain his legacy.

Bait Ullah Mehsud's backing is something not a secret now. CIA never killed anyone fighting with Pakistan Army is a FACT not a Conspiracy. not giving US direct access to Dr. AQ Khan is not a Conspiracy but a FACT. Zardari is a new mole of CIA is a FACT. (Reason he will never restore CJ).

hello ganja, nice to see you on PDF.

hi Moshe, I will hang u one day!

The Colonel's name was Col. Haroon Islam. Though 10 years junior he was a friend of my father(my father is from engineer corps not ssg).

The media did cover the injured.Its a very bad thing to show anything like this. I remember one incident in which an injured was on a stretcher and his way was blocked by all the media men.He was wondering that what are these guys doing. Imagine being a family member of him or anyone else who gave their lives or got injured while doing so. I would have suffered a heart attack if i was a family member.

Yeh Ghazi Episode 1; Khalid Bin AlWaleed (R.A)

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Ababeel

Thanks Mate for posting "Yeh Ghazi"

Zaid sahab's program is very nice effort, but I feel he has a wrong start. (Unless he is trying to compare Khalid's (RA) end with Moshe....Yahya was talking about Uhud after dhaka fall so never mind)

To start with Khalid bin Waleed (RA) feels like opening a One-dayer with Danish Kaneria as attack bowler. while you have Waseem Akram to start and end the inning.

best personality who deserves to start with such a program is by far, Ali bin AbiTalib (RA).

one can brush me away calling "Shia", but I am not.

I just say what justifies.

If Zaid Sahib is Shy about Jamal or Siffin (last ten overs), he can bleckbox them as "a conspiracy" like our wicked Mullah, but Islam's foundation was built on top of Badr, Uhud, Khandaq and Khaybar (first ten overs).
we as a nation are stuck between Uhud and Khandaq right now, let us talk about Mauta or Yarmuk at a later stage.

this priority roots back into our national psychology somehow.
PMA kakul started with Khalid and Tariq Company.
then they added Qasim and Salahuddin.
then Came Babur, Aurangzeb, Tipu and Ghaznavi Battery.
After long time, when they planned 3rd Pak, somebody told them to have a Haider Company too.Only Company named after title name, thus avoiding real name(still seniority #9/12 to date)
then comes Saad, Ubaida and Hamza's seniority......

we don't read history, and don't learn from it.....

MY GOd Sir please do not make a sincer effort doubtful and please do not make it sectarian.

I can swear on Holy Quran there is nothing that sort of thing in this series about Muslim warriors as i am witness to it.

This is very sad that we Muslims always turn to negative thinking that is root cause of our downfall i feel.

Anyway guys its a nice series based on Muslim Field Commanders who were Ghazis. Though there many many Ghazis of great staure however due to shortage of time all of them might not be coverd.

Its a long list.

Lets see we can suggest to Sir Zaid to continue it after Ramazan to cover maximum of them.

I have good faith in Zaid Sahib, and I know he talks about Ummah and Khilafat Ala Minhaj unNabuah (I will type it KAMN), and he is serious about it.

If I have lost my ring in my backyard, and I am searching it in entire town, does it make sense?

to restore KAMN we need to know where and why did it end.

unfortunately it is where sectarian dogmas start, and people don't want to talk about it.

here is my point, if somehow KAMN it is restored today, it will fall apart even quicker unless we know how it ended at first place.

remember the famous joke, where two hunters tried to rent a small aircraft to transport two rhinos.
pilot was worried that his plane may not carry that much weight.
don't worry, we travelled with two Rhinos last year too, and plane took off safely. they told him. and the pilot was satisfied.

after 15 minutes of flight, the plane started showing fatigue, and finally crashed in a jungle.
after several hours hunters, badly injured recovered from uncounciousness, and one told the other........isn't it the same place where we crashed last year?

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Schmuck! Welldone yaar, You really told us something new that If you can't refute anyone on logical reasoning you must go on modalities.

My question is;

When Mr. Zaid Said in his program that he is following a particular order of warriors? He never said that, this is something which your brain fabricated out of nowhere. But I am really not surprised at all as it is between you and Zaid Hamid's program and it was supposed to be like this; wasn't it.

I have no idea why Mr Schmuck has got so much enmity with Mr Zahid Zaman Hamid of BrassTack program?

Mr Zahid Zaman Hamid is trying to convince us (Muslims in general and Pakistani in particular) that Allah has a great plan for us. We should not think that Allah has never been kind enough to the people of the sub-continent that He had never sent any messengers to this area. But Allah mentions in the Qura'an that He has never left any civilization to whom He has never sent a messenger. Like many Arabs and Jews think of themselves as the Blessed/Supreme creation that Allah has sent many messengers among them. Its just because they were wicked and mischievous that only a few messengers could not have done the job. So that's why He sent Muhammad (PBUH) to the whole universe.

As far as Mr Zahid Zaman Hamid is concerned he is a doctor who is prescribing a medicine to us (Muslims in general and Pakistani in particular) and now its up to us that we should take the medicine in time regularly and take some other precautionary procedures as well.

sometimes critical view may be constructive.
I may like Zaid more than many here.
I agree to what all he stands for, I just want him to tune up on priorities and methodology.

Zaid sahab did a full program on Khilafat. but if at all we have one Khalifa today, how we will chose his successor after he dies........
even criticism needs some expense of mind. don't worry about it.

I dont understand why people are flaring up by schmuck's comments.
I kinda agree with him...id expect the show to be in chronological order..nothing shia sunni..
oh and i think the set needs to be better...it is weird!

Up to much extent I do agree with Schmuck as well mate but he goes on criticizing everybody all the time. Even the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) himself said that after him the Khilafat would stay for thirty years and after that it will be monarchy partly just then anarchy who would lead the people not by sunnah but self made principles like (Pakistan is First) then again it would be khilafat. He even said that some people in my Ummah would try to restore the khilafat in true form but they would be hunt down and suppressed but when they would rise again and none would be able to stop them until they erect their banners in the Jerusalem, Israel. This prophecy applies perfectly on Taliban in Afghanistan. I have some issues with Taliban myself but most of the stories in the Western media are fabricated.

although I am notorious as a Taliban sympathizer on this forum. but I feel, Taliban mindset doesn't have a capacity to fulfil such a prediction. Dr. Israr personally went to Kabul during thir rule, to "preach them for this role, but they didn't agree to his vision as their priority.(Dr. Israr is the biggest preacher of this black flags from khurasan story being about Pakistan)

My stance about Taliban is that they represent a school of thought that naturally grows on provoking, but is good for nothing so far. they have a role to polarize ummah instead of showing any visionary strategic thought process.
in post 9/11 world they have been just slaughtered as scapegoats to level the 1:20 ratio score of civilians killed at WTC, at same time achiving strategic goals against Pakistan. things are going per plan so far.

major players in today's conflict are using Taliban name to play their cards.
ISI uses their name to choke Karachi port, or Indus highway for Americans.
Americans use their name to bomb inside Pakistan, and capture chinese etc.
Indians use their name to bomb wah factory, and Army/PAF installations.
Afghans use their name to carry out robberies in border areas.

yet they proudly own such acts thinking, "badnaam jo hongay to kia naam na hoga?"

coming back to prophecy wordings, Taliban can't reach Ailia (AlQuds) either by air or by land even in absence of an enemy...............so they aren't the ones.

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Dr. Israr talks about Muslim Past, Present, and Future. Its related to what is being discussed on this thread, so posting this perspective as well.

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nice springboard for motivation, but Pakistan is not Khurasan for sure.

Yeh Ghazi Episode 6: Amr Ibn Al-'As (R.A)

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salamualikum



yar awesum ..he earned my respect ..

Thx bro ababeel nice one bro...

Allah Hafiz