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Economic Terrorism Part 4

Video 1

http://vidpk.com/view_video.php?vid=12616

Video 2

http://vidpk.com/view_video.php?vid=12617

Video 3

http://vidpk.com/view_video.php?vid=12618

Video 4

http://vidpk.com/view_video.php?vid=12619

Video 5

http://vidpk.com/view_video.php?vid=12620

My question is how much of this is true. On the surface it looks like conspiracy theory show. Some of the "facts" mentioned in the show aren't exactly verifiable. For example the americans are not interested in the Amero as of now. It was a Canadian idea.

RFIP chips are real but there is huge resistance against making this mainstream in the states.
PakShaheen
Bro, These are huge and immense changes these never occurred in day or two. Remember how long Euro took to be rectified as European currency. But, US economy is in bad shape and debt is increasing daily.

RFIP is a glimpse of future.... Look at the inflation in world common people will not able to appose these ideas for too long when huge rewards will be offered for these kind of chips. There are people who already are accepting it, yes low in number though.


There is a topic going on in Strategic Forum by the heading of Zaid Hamid on TVone plz check that out.
Ababeel
I have posted all video episode of this program that were posted on PDF and those that we were able to find online. Please look at this thread.

http://pakistanidefenceforum.com//index.ph...p;#entry1059205
ZPak
Thanks guys
Caesar
Well Bank of England is private, and so are the other so called Federal banks in Europe and so is the US Federal Reserve!!!!

Here is an extract from the book "The Gods of Eden"

QUOTE
This method of creating money clearly destroyed the
true purpose of money: to represent the existence of actual
tradeable commodities. Inflatable paper money allows a
handful of people to absorb and manipulate a great deal
of true wealth, which are the valuable goods and services
people produce, simply through the act of printing paper
ahd then slowly destroying the value of that paper with
inflation. It causes money to become its own commodity
which can be manipulated on its own terms, usually to
the detriment of the production-and-barter system. Money
was meant to assist that system, not to dominate and control
it. The inflatable paper money system described above was
the new "science" of money being installed by Brotherhood
revolutionaries. An early version of the system was established
in Holland in 1609. That was the year in which Dutch
and Spanish forces signed a truce suspending the hostilities
of the Eighty Years War. The truce marked the birth of the
independent Dutch Republic and the founding of the Bank
of Amsterdam in the same year.
The privately-owned Bank of Amsterdam operated on the
inflatable paper money system described above. It was run
by a group of financiers who pooled some of their precious
metals to form the asset base of the Bank. By prior agreement
with the new Dutch government, the Bank helped
Dutch forces resume the wars against Spain by issuing notes
four times in excess of the Bank's asset base. The Dutch
magistrates were then able to draw on three quarters of
the "created-out-of-nothing" money to finance the conflict.
This reveals the primary reason why the inflatable paper
money system was created: it enables nations to fight and
prolong their wars. It also makes the human struggle for
physical existence in a modern economy more difficult due
to the massive debt and parasitic absorption of wealth that
the system causes. Furthermore, steady inflation reduces the
value of people's money so that their accumulated wealth
is gradually eroded. The Custodial aims expressed in the
Garden of Eden and Tower of Babel stories were greatly
furthered by the new paper money system.
The initial success of the Bank of Amsterdam encouraged
similar banking arrangements in other nations. The most
notable offspring was the Bank of England, founded in
1694. The Bank of England established the pattern for our
modern-day central banks by refining the inflatable paper
money system of Holland. The Bank of England system
was subsequently spread from nation to nation, often on
the backs of revolutions led by prominent Brotherhood
network members. The worldwide reformation announced
in the Fama Fraternitis was well underway by the end of
the 17th century, and the "new money" was a big part of
it



QUOTE
The Bank of England has been labeled by some economists
the "Mother of Central Banks." It became the model
for all central banks which followed it, including the central
banks of today. Under the Bank of England scheme, the
central bank was to be the nation's primary bank, and it
would lend exclusively to the national government. The
central bank's entire purpose was to put the government into
debt and to be the government's major creditor. The central
bank's notes would be lent to the government and those notes
would then circulate as a national currency. This would cause
the nation and its people to rely on those notes as money. The
establishment of the Bank of England caused Britain to go
deeply into debt to a monetary elite (the "paper aristocracy")
which could then influence the use of the nation's resources.
This is the modus operandi of every central bank today.
Caesar
May I also say this that it seems that Zahid Hamid has been inspired by "God of Edens" by William Bramley (publised 1989-90) because the examples he gave throughout his program are exactly what William Bramley gave in his books. Anyways at least he is talking about it but at least should have given different examples!

But listen to his program and just see the extent to which our Ruling Junta is looting and destroying this country by giving away our precious mineral resources to these Jewish multinationals!! The coal is Sindh is the next target--they will sell it for a few cents and pocket that money and will keep our people slaves!!
Alam
very thought provoking...
Ababeel
New Video

Brass Tacks- Economic Terrorism Episode7
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Alam
Does any one know where else I can find all of these videos?? some of th evideos have been taken off form vid pk..heard they have released dvds also...
Ababeel
QUOTE(Alam @ Jun 23 2008, 03:04 PM) *
Does any one know where else I can find all of these videos?? some of th evideos have been taken off form vid pk..heard they have released dvds also...


Yes some videos have been removed from vidpk.com, they have released a CD in Islamabad, but i have not found it on web yet.

Here is latest episode.

Brass Tacks- Economic Terrorism Episode8
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Ababeel


QUOTE
BrassTacks is a private security management consulting firm. The founder of BrassTacks, Mr. Zaid Hamid, along with being a professional security consultant, is also a distinguished scholar and researcher of defence and strategic studies. He holds a passionate interest in Pakistan's national interests and security, and is working on multiple initiatives for the reconstruction of our national unity and cohesion.

The News 1 BrassTacks program, aired every Sunday night at 8:00, is one such effort to educate our public awareness on matters of national security, and inspire a positive message of hope, as well as suggesting concrete counter measures.

BrassTacks will very soon be opening a dedicated website around the activities of our Think Tank, and to make the archives of the program and our other research available to the general public, as well as create a community forum to discuss and brainstorm solutions to our problems.

BrassTacks also has an apprenticeship program for students of IR, Political Science and Defence/Strategic studies related disciplines. BrassTacks Rawalpindi office is offering training for these internees, and welcomes interested students to submit their resumes to our email address info@brasstacks.biz.

Interested students must meet the following qualifications:

Must have passion to serve the mission and not just for a job though we will offer minimal honorarium in the begining.
Must be willing to work in a team beyond the call of duty without any ego issues.
Should be good in Urdu and English -- both reading and writing.
Must be good in computer skills.


http://www.brasstacks.biz/BrasstacksProgramonNews1.asp
Ababeel
Just found Episode 2 Program posting it for members

Economic Terrorism Episode 2
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Ababeel
Last week episode

Economic Terrorism Episode 9
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Ababeel
QUOTE
Brass Tacks on News One - Role of Spiritual Forces Episode 2
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4


Here is the first episode of "Role of Spirtual Forces"

Brass Tacks on News One - Role of Spiritual Forces Episode 1
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Ababeel
Brass Tacks- Economic Terrorism Episode 10
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
ZPak
I dont know guys. Zaid Hamid may be well read. But seriously do you all want to carry sacks of gold and silver coins everytime you want to go buy something The way he dismisses the services provided by the government in the West as "ankhon ki chamak" is a little too much. I'm still not convinced that he's given a good substitute to the current economic system we have. I'm not saying that the current system is good, but the alternatives proposed aren't realistic.
faizan khaliq
QUOTE(ZPak @ Jul 8 2008, 05:44 AM) *
I dont know guys. Zaid Hamid may be well read. But seriously do you all want to carry sacks of gold and silver coins everytime you want to go buy something The way he dismisses the services provided by the government in the West as "ankhon ki chamak" is a little too much. I'm still not convinced that he's given a good substitute to the current economic system we have. I'm not saying that the current system is good, but the alternatives proposed aren't realistic.

There will be no sacks of gold or silver it would increase the buying power of the consumer and ther will be no fear of inflation.The only problem would be if the people start selling gold coins for dollars though it might never happen
Ababeel
Official Website:

http://www.brasstacks.pk/index.asp



Official Brass Tacks TV Program website. With all released old programs for viewers to view and download

http://www.brasstacks.pk/Multimedia.htm



Un-Offical Website of Program by a 3rd party aslo contains all of Old Programs and other documentaries.
http://brasstacks.coolpage.biz/tv-med.htm
Ababeel
Brief Extract from the foreword of the Book Mr. Hamid is working on

QUOTE
From Indus to Oxus
Experiences, Observations and Travels in the Melting Pot of History
**********************************

So it all begins!

It was July 1991. Standing on the Afghan bank of Oxus River, in cool whispering breeze, I could see the barren grey mountains of Tajikistan on the other side. In the bright morning sunshine and beyond the muddy water of Oxus or Amo Darya, I could see the Russian watch towers piercing the skyline. They must be watching us too, I wondered.

History moved in front of my eyes like a fast forwarded tape. Though Islamic armies had first crossed Oxus around 670 AD, the region was still considered the extreme boundary of another world in the writings of the oriental Muslim historians. Oxus was Nehr, meaning the river, in Muslim history and all Muslim Central Asia was Ma wara-ul-Nehr, what lies behind the river, a description to represent the territories on the very edge of the Muslim civilization when seen from Muslim heartland in Middle East and Arabia. For centuries, armies, civilizations and ideologies have crossed the Nehr, from both sides. But after the initial conquest by Islamic armies; mostly the flow had been towards the South directed towards Afghanistan and India.

I was here because the last of the invading armies had just been pushed back across to where it came from. An event of historic proportion had occurred. The three hundred years of Russian expansion had come to a halt in Afghanistan and a process of roll back had begun. The entire central Asia was in an upheaval against their former colonisers and one after another new States were declaring independence. Now I stood on the banks of Amo Darya, watched the defeated army protecting the borders of yet another occupied land from a possible reverse invasion. But the process of retreat was irrevocable. Just to give a helping hand, I picked up my rifle; a Russian captured AK-47, aimed at the mountains beyond the river and fired. I felt a rush of adrenaline in my body as the cracking gunshot echoed across the valley. An emotional but symbolic contribution to the freedom of Ma Wara-ul-nehr. All central Asian States were in the process of declaring freedom from Soviet control. Soviet adventure in Afghanistan had turned out to be a disaster of historic proportions for Kremlin. Couple of months later on 9 September 1991, Tajikistan declared independence.

Standing in that bright morning sunshine, I reflected on the events which had brought me here. It had been a long, adventurous and treacherous journey for me to get to this point. For the last five years, I was associated with the Afghan resistance, from fighting as an ordinary foot soldier in the fiercest of battles to becoming a part time doctor, journalist, media consultant, photographer, technical assistant, propagandist and even a negotiator with Pakistan government on behalf of the resistance. My seemingly insane and adventurous travels into the killing fields of Afghanistan had taken me from Paktika in South to the extreme limits of Oxus on the border of Central Asia. I saw the making of history in the melting pot of Afghanistan. Witnessed millions of hungry and displaced refugees and vast empty spaces of wastelands which were once bustling villages and lush fields. Saw the heroic resistance of ragtag fighters and also saw the brute savagery and ruthless firepower of a modern super power. Saw many defeats and many victories, much bloodshed and many sufferings. I am a witness to epic tales of valour as well as disgusting incidents of treachery, betrayal and treason. Also saw the time when Mujahideen had actually begun to lose and also witnessed the Soviet withdrawal few years later. Had the opportunity of seeing and interacting with major Afghan Mujahideen leaders and commanders and with the brigades of Ansars, the international Muslim volunteer corps, which had come to join and assist the resistance. I also interacted with power players in Pakistan army responsible for inflicting the “death by a thousand cuts” strategy against the Soviets. I am a witness to their victories and to their failures.

My job was not done yet. There was still a long road ahead of me. Kabul was still in the hands of Communists and more important than that, Pakistan had begun to lose in Afghanistan after supporting the resistance for over a decade. Islamabad had begun to lose grip on the resistance once Russians left. Mujahideen groups which had remained somewhat contained under a loose alliance during the Soviet occupation began to pull in opposing directions once Soviets left. Personal, tribal and ethnic rivalries began to take precedence over common military threat which was now seen to be diminishing. While communist regime remained in power in Kabul and continued to survive as well, each Mujahideen group especially the two powerful ones of Hekmatyar and Ahmad Shah Masood planned independent wars to take the city ahead of the other. US interest in Afghanistan had suddenly evaporated after Soviet withdrawal and they were not willing to get involved to clean up the mess. Pakistani leadership failed to analyse the situation and was too slow to react. Arrogance, ignorance and incompetence make deadly combination of foes for any project, let alone one of this magnitude.

Hekmatyar was fully backed by Pakistan while Masood felt abandoned by Islamabad. He was bitter indeed. But Masood was a brilliant warrior and a survivor and had chalked out an independent strategy to take Kabul from North. If he could capture Kabul on his own and beat Hekmatyar to the race, Pakistan would be net loser on all counts. Also, that would irrevocably divide Afghanistan for all times to come on ethnic lines. If somehow, anyone could convince Islamabad to bring these two charismatic resistance leaders together and back both of them instead of one, Pakistan had the most brilliant chance of securing a permanent foothold in the country and also assure long term peace in this region after decades of wars and bloodshed. Masood would never listen to Pakistan ever again if he takes Kabul on his own without Islamabad’s support. I needed to get back to Pakistan urgently. I could sense a disaster in the making. My own self began to melt as the intensity of thoughts and emotions was further heated by the rising warm sun. I picked up my camera, took few parting shots, lifted my gun and slowly began to walk towards the waiting rickety Russian jeep. It was time to go home but before that I wanted to take a closer look at the defeated Soviet army. I asked Najeem Khan to drive on the Afghan bank towards the Soviet border post nearby across the Oxus River…….

*********************

Lots of water has passed under the bridge since my last and perhaps final visit to the Oxus in the territory controlled by Ahmad Shah Masood. He did capture Kabul next year, without Islamabad’s support. Hekmatyar could never enter Kabul ever since. Few turbulent years of Masood in Kabul, gave rise to Taliban who in turn drove Masood out back to his fortress of Panjsher. Taliban emerged as wildcards in the Afghan imbroglio and took both Pakistan and Afghan Mujahideen leadership by surprise. They declared war on all former Mujahideen leaders, including Hekmatyar, Masood, Sayyaf, Rabbani, Mujaddidi and Pir Gilani for betraying the Jihad and infighting amongst themselves at a time when Pakistan was still betting on Hekmatyar. All Pakistan’s hopes were dashed finally when even Hekmatyar was defeated by Taliban and had to abandon his base in Sarobi. Taliban were not created by Pakistan as widely believed, but were creation of chaotic circumstances in post Najeebullah era in Afghanistan. Why would Pakistan create Taliban when Islamabad was still putting all their eggs in basket of Hekmatyar to dislodge Masood from Kabul? Emergence of Taliban was a serious blow to Pakistan’s retarded Afghan policy as well which was thrown into a tail spin when volatile Mullah Omar destroyed every Pakistani asset in his venom against former Afghan Jihad leadership. Pakistan was forced to engage Taliban later on but had no hand in creating them as widely perceived. Taliban were too wild and volatile to be controlled by anyone.

No Pakistani religious party including the Jamaat Islami of Pakistan, which had always supported the Afghan Jihad since 1979, had any relations with Taliban when they rose from nowhere. Jamaat still does not have any relations with Taliban though they have also abandoned Hekmatyar these days. Qazi Hussein never speaks in favour of his life long friend Hekmatyar any more, who remains in hiding in Kunar province, abandoned both by his allies in Pakistan and his patron government in Islamabad. The Deobandi clergy, which claims to be champions of Taliban cause in Pakistan, began to support Taliban after they took power in Afghanistan.

Then in 2001, Taliban too were over thrown by US, and Masood was assassinated by pro-Taliban Arabs. Afghanistan once again came under foreign occupation and they installed remnants of Masood’s men and few imported Afghans like Karzai to replace the clerical regime. Another war of resistance has begun in the country. Taliban as well as Hekmatyar have once again become resistance fighters, fighting against another foreign army and against their former allies during Soviet occupation. Now, Taliban and Hekmatyar have emerged as allies for common cause of survival. Both are angry with Pakistan. There is total chaos in the country with warlords and brigands controlling the countryside. Pakistan has emerged as the net loser in the whole episode. The pro-Masood elements controlling power in Kabul remain staunchly anti-Pakistan and have closest relations with India, Iran, US and Russia. For them, it is a blood feud now as they hold Pakistan responsible for death of Masood, when in reality Islamabad knew nothing about the Taliban/Osama plot to assassinate Masood. Afghan refugees still remain in Pakistan and have no plans to go back. Pakistan’s western borders remain insecure. Nearly a hundred thousand Pakistani troops are stationed along Afghan border fighting an array of enemies from Taliban remnants to Arab militants to local tribal sympathisers to infiltrators sent from Kabul and India. It is not just complex, it is also dirty.

My worst fears in 1991 have materialized. On my return to Pakistan, I could not convince Pakistan army to support Masood as well. They did not believe me that he had the potential to take Kabul on his own. A blunder of historic proportions. Pakistan kept betting on the wrong horse in a race which had only two horses competing. In 1992, when Masood was the defence Minister in Kabul after taking over the city under Presidency of Ustad Rabbani, I tried one more last ditch effort to bridge the communication and confidence gap between Masood and Islamabad. That failed as well after showing some signs of hope. Pakistan’s Afghan dreams were shattered and I was left heartbroken and have never gone to Afghanistan ever since.

Much has happened in Pakistan also since that time. During the 90’s, Governments came and went but there was no sense of loss or realization at the historic blunders. No government had any long term Afghan policy, nor there was any study and analysis of the debacles caused by the prejudices and incompetence of the Afghan war handlers. General Musharraf came in 1999 and inherited the Taliban legacy. Even he still does not have any defined or declared Afghan policy. It is all ad-hoc, reactive, based on daily basis doctrine of necessity. Even when there was a policy shift to finally abandon Taliban under US duress, Pakistan failed to take advantage of US desperation and its dependence upon Pakistan. The relationship was asymmetrical; in which US was the net gainer in the short term at the cost of moral, political and defence crisis for Pakistan. Taliban have now regrouped and are once again posing a real and close threat to US and its allied regime in Kabul. Soviets had nearly half a million troops in the country but could not tame it. Americans want to do the same with only 18,000 men on ground. A hopeless task to start with. It seems that it only a matter of time when situation really gets out of control for Americans too. This is continuing to date as Afghanistan continues to boil and melt in the cauldron of history with no apparent hope for future.

Within the region and in the Middle East also, there is massive turmoil and unrest. After Afghanistan, United States, UK and their allies have invaded Iraq as well and are bogged in a bloody war with the Iraqi resistance. Iran and Syria are also on the collision course with Western powers. Saudi Arabia is facing the most severe internal turmoil within its 80 years of history. The entire Muslim world from West Africa to Indonesia is undergoing another invasion from the West which is military, economic and ideological at the same time with despair, hopelessness and frustration as well as humiliation and anger enveloping the Muslim world. In the absence of dignified religious and political leadership, Muslim world is passing through a critical time where its very survival as a civilization is threatened under massive invasion from the dominant western nations. The leadership vacuum is often being filled by radicals and extremists of all caste and creed in every part of the Muslim world. Some home grown, some planted form outside by vested interests.

On the other civilizational axis, China is emerging as the main competitor for US after demise of Soviet Union, though Russia is not written off by any standards yet. The entire Asia and particularly the Muslim world have become the battle ground where major powers are competing for energy sources, trading routes, military bases and political control. India is taking a cautious view of this epic struggle and has designs of its own while other powers prepare for a showdown. Pakistan is the most powerful Muslim country but with the weakest leadership. It remains the prime target and the last hurdle in western attempts to totally over run the Muslim heartland. But it is totally surrounded by enemies from three sides, while China remaining its only ally in a pond full of alligators. A showdown of civilizations is inevitable. Pakistan is trapped in the middle of it. Just like the people of Europe in late thirties, before the start of Second World War, the world seems to be heading for another world war in not so far future or at least a war in which nuclear weapons would be freely used. The First and Second World Wars, fought with conventional weapons, killed 40 million people. The third world war would be fought with nuclear weapons and no one can predict the future.

****************************

Today is 2008. I am almost 44 now with grey and white linings appearing in my hair and an uncontrollable waistline betraying the apparently younger appearance which I try to put up. The risk taking, troubles seeking, fiery, emotional exuberance of yesteryears have honourably given way to a comparatively mature, serious, philosophical and pondering person. I have begun to love solitude and find peace in reflecting in my inner self in the serene company of nature. I am a very satisfied person, very contented within myself and have no regrets. It is a good life God has blessed me with, both past and present. I hope, my future would be blessed as well.

But more seriously, I am beginning to feel that in a few years, I may not even be having that sharp memory which had been such a loyal friend during this adventurous and exciting lifespan. Even now, events are beginning to blur and fuzz triggering the urgency within to write what had been hidden in my soul and heart for so long spread over the last two decades. I had never maintained any organized notes during my adventures and now find it even more difficult to recollect all what has gone by. Though I still have a huge collection of photographs and many hours of video footage which does make a historical and rare archive of that turbulent era. I am sure, inshallah, what I write would be honest enough not to betray the history and that I would be guided to be wise enough not to deceive myself. I am only writing about what I have seen and experienced during my association with Afghan resistance between 1986 to 1992, the events which led to the mess what we see today in 2006. It is by no account a total history of that period nor do I claim to be a historian or an accomplished writer. I am what God has made me and accept my limitations and weaknesses though it is my desire that the experience which has been shown to me, should benefit all those who seek to make amends of the historical mistakes committed during this period. This fact makes me very concerned indeed that this nation and its pygmy leaders do not wish to learn from their errors. Did Pakistanis learn from the errors which led to the East Pakistan debacle? Why Pakistan lost Masood after cultivating and nurturing him since 1975? Was he really anti-Pakistan or a victim of vested propaganda? Who are the characters within Pakistan establishment responsible for shaping this disastrous Afghan policy of Pakistan especially in early 90’s? The players of yesteryears are still holding influence if not authority in the country today and may not like what I might have to say. Denial would be easiest of defence for them when there are no witnesses to corroborate the events in private rooms and dark alleys.

Now when the world is being re-shaped and not just the politics but even the geography of the Muslim world is being changed with direct threats to Pakistan, the historical errors committed in Afghanistan and subsequently in Pakistan could prove disastrous. What I see is not pleasant but I would rather let future make them obvious for all to see than expressing them now. Right now, I only wish to write what has gone by.

There are reasons why I could not get myself to recollect my thoughts earlier. From 1992 onwards, I was involved in a more private struggle to rebuild my life from scratch after years of nomadic wanderings and romanticism with travels, adventures and wars. I migrated from Karachi to Rawalpindi during this time and with a faithful wife to support and three loving kids to raise, it was time that I give them back their lost dad for a change. For years they had been on the knife edge due to my own passions and had taken the brunt silently and steadfastly. Financially, those were times of struggle for us. To increase the family income, I began to write on Afghanistan and some of the articles did get published in national papers. Though motive for getting them published was more selfish than serving any higher ideals, it did give me a confidence boost that my travels are publishable and readable material. The thought of writing a proper compilation had been in my mind ever since.

It has all happened in the last 22 years and to a small degree I was close enough to the events to witness them take shape. The events are still taking form rapidly as I sit back and finally decide to write. These are the observations, experiences and travels of a young man who happened to drift right into the eye of the storm and in the cauldron of history to witness some amazing events. Some painful, some heroic, some thrilling and some heart breaking but nevertheless part of the untold history.

Z. Z. Hamid
Rawalpindi.
June 2008


http://www.brasstacks.pk/Books.htm
WAJHEE
QUOTE(ZPak @ Jul 8 2008, 06:44 AM) *
I dont know guys. Zaid Hamid may be well read. But seriously do you all want to carry sacks of gold and silver coins everytime you want to go buy something The way he dismisses the services provided by the government in the West as "ankhon ki chamak" is a little too much. I'm still not convinced that he's given a good substitute to the current economic system we have. I'm not saying that the current system is good, but the alternatives proposed aren't realistic.

if it was realistic in past then why it can't be today???
m.a.baig
QUOTE(ZPak @ Jul 8 2008, 06:44 AM) *
I dont know guys. Zaid Hamid may be well read. But seriously do you all want to carry sacks of gold and silver coins everytime you want to go buy something The way he dismisses the services provided by the government in the West as "ankhon ki chamak" is a little too much. I'm still not convinced that he's given a good substitute to the current economic system we have. I'm not saying that the current system is good, but the alternatives proposed aren't realistic.



you would have to be extremely rich to carry around sacks of gold and silver coins everywhere.
I don't think you realize that gold is worth a lot more than the paper currency we use today.

and also you will be able to write checks too as long as the check represents actual real wealth in this case the gold or silver.
schmuck
If u r paid in gold, u will love to get more coins if u can. but it will hardly be more than 3-4 for a good professional in pakistan.
a grocery trip will need 3-4 silver rupees, which is not a big deal.
Ababeel
MUST WATCH!

Brasstack special on PTV. talking about comming US invasion and overall situation.

Part 1
Part 2
schmuck
QUOTE(Ababeel @ Jul 15 2008, 05:43 PM) *
MUST WATCH!

Brasstack special on PTV. talking about comming US invasion and overall situation.

Part 1
Part 2


I guess it has more parts.....
Alam
it should have more parts..but I couldn't fine any...
This is the scariest thing in years that I have heard...
May Allah inspire our leaders (what ever retards they are) to atleas handle this with outmost care and smartness..
Aameen! PakistanFlag.gif
WAJHEE
Another programm of Zaid Hamid will be aired on wednesday at 7 pm in english on PTV News...i.e today...
Ababeel
Sorry guys just posting links as Youtube user is uploading them. This one is complete.

Zaid Hamid: Brasstacks on PTV News 7/15/2008
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Ababeel
Guys, so far was able to find Part 1, as other parts are loaded on youtube by user khawajak, I will upadate this post with those links.

BrassTacks- World in Focus on PTV News 7/16/2008
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
BaburMissile
Zaid Hamid is a role model. Very special.
Ababeel
BrassTacks-Economic Terrorism Episode 11

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Ababeel
BrassTacks Discussion Board:
http://www.brasstacks.pk/forum/

BrassTacks Blog by: Zaid Hamid
http://www.brasstacks.pk/blog/
Alam
Bravo Dr. Zaid Hamid!!
You are exactly the kind of people we need now a days!
I wish every Pakistani listens to him and we all get unified in our efforts.
schmuck
Zaid is good and agressive at debate, but he needs to improve his history, Islamic and general knowledge. I usually catch 5-6 "bugs" while listening his single program.
moreover the way he talks about Islamism, it is easy for his critics to brush him away as a religious fanatic.
some of his themes like spiritual dimension of power is crude, and based upon selective study of Muslim history. he needs to be more realistic.
he sometimes quotes Iqbal poetry with wrong words, that's funny.

Although I appreciate the way he can motivate others.
motivation is something that can sell things nowadays. but any roadside juggler can misuse it too.



just for your common knowledge, the anchor in above poster is new wife of famous singer Fakhr e Alam. Son of Arusa alam (Capt Amrindar singh fame) daughter of Akleem Akhtar, General Rani (Yahya khan fame).....
Ababeel
Brass Tacks- Economic Terrorism Episode 12

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Ababeel
Brass Tacks- Economic Terrorism Episode 13

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
schmuck
Episode 13 is good one
Ababeel
I think everyone needs to see episode 13.

Zaid Hamid talked alot of common sense. If we are going to have another "Mere Payare Aziz Hum Watno" moment then I hope that person implements these points raised in this episode.
schmuck
I may be wrong, but episode 13 may be a planned pretext of same Aziz Hamwatano...........either way its not a bad idea. whatever works, Pakistan needs plans and actions.
*Zarrar Jareeh*
Yeah this episode 13 was a good one. But problem is Mr. Hamid is stating the obvious what the educated people of Pakistan already know. The problem is that with so many different versions/sects that these Mullahs have divided Islam into, whose version of Islam is the progressive, enlightened and beneficial for all of us?? Certainly not that of the Taliban.
schmuck
QUOTE(*Zarrar Jareeh* @ Jul 29 2008, 05:03 AM) *
Yeah this episode 13 was a good one. But problem is Mr. Hamid is stating the obvious what the educated people of Pakistan already know. The problem is that with so many different versions/sects that these Mullahs have divided Islam into, whose version of Islam is the progressive, enlightened and beneficial for all of us?? Certainly not that of the Taliban.

You are right, both our political and religous leadership really have problem with their priorities. their personal interests are not in sync with our interests.
check my one line signature, for what they need.
mado
I'm starting to enjoy this show, quite informative!

mado
Shoaib Pervez
In episode 13 Zaid says "Holland ki gaay hamari gaay sey 10 gunaa ziyaada doodh detii hai" laugh.gif Please don't tell the Indians, else they'll flock to make an annual pilgrimage to Holland laugh.gif
schmuck
QUOTE(Shoaib Pervez @ Jul 31 2008, 08:13 AM) *
In episode 13 Zaid says "Holland ki gaay hamari gaay sey 10 gunaa ziyaada doodh detii hai" laugh.gif Please don't tell the Indians, else they'll flock to make an annual pilgrimage to Holland laugh.gif


for pilgrimage, they may prefer a cow who does 10 times more dung and pee.
pakistan needs to explore this option to balance the trade with india.
Ababeel
BrassTacks- Special Episode on Khilafah
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6

Video Description:
BrassTacks special episode with reference to 28th Rajab 1344 (3rd March 1924 CE) AH.
schmuck
Here is my runtime commentry on this episode...
episode is half full glass, choon choon ka murabba of half truths.

he isn't good at quoting Iqbal's poetry. most of time, he reads it wrong.
1. the one about Sharif Hussain of Makkah. (read wrongly twice)
2. About Fatima of Tripoli.(read wrong again)


another thing, per my assesment, his knowledge of history is above average for last 200 years.
but he is wrong about Istanbul not being captured during WW1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Istanbul
November 13, 1918 to September 23, 1923, Istanbol was under allies control.

he also seems to have not even read the earlier history of Islam. (first couple of centuries)
somehow, every muslim ruler is afraid of teaching history to people at all, they don't want to be nude.

his theory of "Roohani taqat" is built out of thin air like paper currency:-) if he is presenting it as a religious viewpoint, still there is no single sect or school of thought that supports it.
his expectations from our Pakistani Army are very unrealistic.
our Army is designed in such a way that our proud regiments fought under British raj during WW1, to break the Khilafat, and are still proud of it.
for last 6 dacades we are fighting for them in name of UN peace keeping and war on terror, and are proud of it.
proudest "Mujahid" Zia ul Haq, that we have been able to produce till today was called by Shah Hussain,(grandson of Sharif e makkah cursed by Iqbal above) to butcher the palestinians. and he "did the job".
we have been bodygaurding Americans in Somalia.

we need to admit that we are living in continuation of colonial rule. larnay wali fauj koi aur hogi, then why decieve ourselves?
to date, we proudly purge every "fundamentalist" from Army after every few years.
I have been a part of this fauj,and I know what I type

I have simple question for everybody, if Afghanistan's , or Iraq's current Armies, built by Americans remain in control by US presence or equipment aid, for say another 50 years, how will it "convert" into something else?

anyway, program is fine and motivating one, part 6 was posted a bit later, and he answerd some issues.

u can call all of this, "the darker side of half truths", for which I have decided to speak, risking my membership on this forum. go ahead if this is unacceptable
Alam
Whether he states all true facts, or some manipulated ones, I believe his ideas could make a huge difference in the morale of our people.
Whta we need most at this time is awareness of our potentials and a better future goal, and ofcourse unity, faith and discipline
reichmarshal
He said during the episode that he did a program on ghazwa e hind.

could any of the brothers please paste the link here or point me in that direction
Ababeel
QUOTE(reichmarshal @ Aug 2 2008, 04:04 AM) *
He said during the episode that he did a program on ghazwa e hind.

could any of the brothers please paste the link here or point me in that direction



He is referring to this episode: Role of Spiritual Forces where he talks about this in detail.

Look at post #14 on this thread.
schmuck
Sharing some food for thoughts.

1. Muslims need unity, for strength as well as to obey Allah's will. who ever breaks unity within muslims should be worried about his faith and consequences.
2. Establishment of a new Khilafah may be a logical outcome of this unity.
3. Currently, sectarianism is the major thing that is harming unity.
4. Mullah's can't live without sects. they will choke to death without it.
5. Sects represent Islam not more than American corporations represent American People, or World Bank represent mankind, or, Altaf Bhai represents people of sindh.
6. second biggest disease is nationalism. the "nations" that define our 57 countries are defined around tribes, languages, or mineral resource only. I can't imagine if all of them even qualify to be provinces within the next Khilafah (or Islamic superstate).

about last khilafah.
1. Muslim masses guided (or misguided) by mullah have a typical phelosophy of "Jehra jittay ohday naal (JJUN). they have made it a part of faith now. thats why we have 4 khulfa e rashidin. for those who don't study history, 7th was Yazeed, who was Rashid too for quiet some time, till Umayyads lost control. it is ironic that most sects activelty struggling for Khilafah today still call him a legitimate Khalifah. (Name of AlQaeda's spokesman for last few interviews is "Abu-Yazeed")
2. There is no guidline about how to select a Khalifa. major tool used to decide it throughout the history has been a danda. who ever holds is. Turks had the danda from 16th century onwards, so they had this honour with them for centuries without question.
3. it worked ok, till TUrky was weakend by european wolfpacks attacking Ottomans one after another for more than a century. most of us even don't know, that Ottomans fought very bravely but they were alone. they couldn't keep muslims involved.


Here is a quick summary of those wars. It was very brave for Turks to sustain for so long.

The Greek War of Independence, taking place from 1821 to 1832, in which the Great Powers intervened from 1827, including Russia (Seventh Russo-Turkish war, 1828-1829), achieved independence for Greece; the Treaty of Adrianople ended the war.

Wars with Bosnia 1831-1836, 1836-1837, 1841.

War with Montenegro 1852-1853.

Eighth Russo-Turkish war 1853-1856, Crimean War, Ended with the Treaty of Paris.

Second war with Montenegro in 1858-1859.

War with Montenegro, Bosnia and Serbia in 1862.

Cretan Uprising in 1866.

Bulgarian Rebellion in 1876.

The ninth and final Russo-Turkish war started in 1877, the same year the Ottomans withdrew from the Conference of Constantinople. Romania then declared its independence and waged war on Turkey, joined by Serbians and Bulgarians and finally the Russians . Bosnia was occupied by Austria in 1878. The Russians and the Ottomans signed the Treaty of San Stefano in early 1878. After deliberations at the Congress of Berlin, which was attended by all the Great Powers of the time, the Treaty of Berlin, 1878 recognized several territorial changes.

Eastern Rumelia was granted some autonomy in 1878, rebelled in 1885 and joined Bulgaria in 1886. Thessalia ceded to Greece in 1881, but after Greece attacked the Ottoman Empire to help the Second Cretan Uprising in 1897, Greece was broken in Thessalia.

Macedonian insurrection from 1903.


1912-1913: Balkan Wars
Two Balkan Wars, in 1912 and 1913, involved further action against the Ottoman Empire in Europe. The Balkan League first conquered Macedonia and most of Thrace from the Ottoman Empire, and then fell out over the division of the spoils. Albania also declared independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1912, after several rebellions and uprisings. This reduced Turkey's possessions in Europe (Rumelia) to their present borders in Eastern Thrace.


Major cause of fall of Khilafah was Turk nationalism.
blaming Jews doesn't justifies everything. till we don't try to learn from our mistakes, we keep on repeating them.
read history for lessons. Turk pride took them to grave. during last few dacades of empire, it accelerated like hyperinflation causing a market crash. do read about "Young turks movement"
also read role and issues of contamporary PanIslamism of Jamal uddin Afghani
u need to spend 30 minutes on internet for details. Muslims people ruled by them, were not on the same page, intentionally or otherwise. but this harmed them.

Turks came from central Asia, converted , ruled, and officially have left, facing towards europe.
If they need Islam, they may return, but Islam doesn't depend upon them. it is here to stay.same rule is valid for Hind, sindh, Misr, Iran, or even Arabs.

Quran Says if you don't help islam, Allah will replace you with better people. it has happened before, and can happen again.

47:38 Behold, ye are those invited to spend (of your substance) in the Way of Allah. But among you are some that are niggardly. But any who are niggardly are so at the expense of their own souls. But Allah is free of all wants, and it is ye that are needy. If ye turn back (from the Path), He will substitute in your stead another people; then they would not be like you!

47:7 O ye who believe! If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly.

6:159 As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.
(Most misused Ayat by our molvi. they lie about the usage of word Shia in it, trying to further divide muslims. I am afraid to even imagine their fate over this cheating.)

3:139 So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in Faith.

9:33 It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

61:9 It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, that he may proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

48:28 It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion: and enough is Allah for a Witness.


we can discuss Khilafah only if people here are interested. or you can use your internet to do the research independently.
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