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Shehz
I apologize, but all the forums are very Pakistan specific (or China and Far East), hence, General Media Sub-Forum was the only choice available.

Iran has tested more missiles, to which The US warned them.
Israel has unveiled a new aircraft that officials say is capable of spying on Iran.
No name, no specifications, just a news brief and a video.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7499883.stm
Shehz
Iran has carried out a second day of missile testing in the Gulf, pictures of which were shown on state TV.
The state media said several types of missiles were fired as well as a torpedo capable of hitting enemy submarines.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7499384.stm
Shehz
US warns Iran on missile threat
The US has said it will not hesitate to defend its interests and those of its allies as Iran continues missile tests.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the US had increased its security in the region. Jon Leyne reports from Tehran.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7499931.stm
Rasta Fairy
Why is this in the Gen Images forum? Stop posting news links if you don't have comments of your own to add.
Shehz
QUOTE(Rasta Fairy @ Jul 10 2008, 10:48 AM) *
Why is this in the Gen Images forum?

Ah, so you're back from your rip van winkle sleep.
Let me appraise you, the Global forum has dissapeared, which was explained in the very first post.

Go back to sleep, we'll wake you up again next year.
asamih
This discussion is much more better suited to the strategic issues forum so it would be best to move this thread there unless it already exists in the strategic issues forum.
aziqbal
Looks very advanced and sophisticated after all its Israeli technology
asamih
The new spy plane looks good and seems to be harnessing some advanced technologies.
It will have to be stealthy to spy on Iran since Iran has the S-300 so it can attack very high altitude aircraft and down them. So for this spy plane to be successful spying on Iran it will have to be stealthy so as to evade Iranian radars.

Any further information about this aircraft would be well appreciated.
2 aliph 5
QUOTE(Rasta Fairy @ Jul 10 2008, 08:48 AM) *
Why is this in the Gen Images forum? Stop posting news links if you don't have comments of your own to add.


How do you take your morning bed tea please ?
Yahya
QUOTE(asamih @ Jul 10 2008, 04:52 PM) *
The new spy plane looks good and seems to be harnessing some advanced technologies.
It will have to be stealthy to spy on Iran since Iran has the S-300 so it can attack very high altitude aircraft and down them. So for this spy plane to be successful spying on Iran it will have to be stealthy so as to evade Iranian radars.

Any further information about this aircraft would be well appreciated.

it looks like the Isreali AWACs
Yahya
Shehz
Is that a Gulfstream in the background?
Does Israel have that many rivers?
Where did you get that pic from yaar?
asamih
QUOTE(Yahya @ Jul 10 2008, 05:49 PM) *
it looks like the Isreali AWACs


It lacks a large radome so i doubt it is an AWAC.
Yahya
QUOTE(asamih @ Jul 10 2008, 10:25 PM) *
It lacks a large radome so i doubt it is an AWAC.

have you ever looked at a picture of a phalcon??
Yahya
QUOTE(Shehz @ Jul 10 2008, 05:56 PM) *
Is that a Gulfstream in the background?
Does Israel have that many rivers?
Where did you get that pic from yaar?

definatly are GulfStream G550, modified by israelis and a AESA radar mounted on them....their own airforce ordered several out of which above i think is the first delivery....


i doent understand, it CAN not carry out surveilance over Iran. the S300 is a POTENT SAM
ali23
But israel has jamming abilities(i don't know whether it can jam S-300). There Block 40 F-16s and F-16I have a dorsal spine(carriage space) which is not possessed by any other F-16 in the world. It is rumored that sophisticated ECM,Jamming equipment is carried in it.
Yahya
QUOTE(ali23 @ Jul 11 2008, 07:57 AM) *
But israel has jamming abilities(i don't know whether it can jam S-300). There Block 40 F-16s and F-16I have a dorsal spine(carriage space) which is not possessed by any other F-16 in the world. It is rumored that sophisticated ECM,Jamming equipment is carried in it.

actually other countries have that dorsal spine aswell.


UAE Block 60


Polish Block 52
manpad
QUOTE(asamih @ Jul 10 2008, 10:25 PM) *
It lacks a large radome so i doubt it is an AWAC.

Its not a AWAC, its a AEW&C. Like the one that Pakistan bought, the Saab Erieye.

A simple explanation of the difference would be:

The difference between AWACS and AEW is that an AWACS carries additional crew who perform Command and Control duties (think military version of an airport control tower), and an AEW feeds its sensor picture back to a surface station.

Think about the platform used for a AEW&C world over and then relate it to space contraints to put in the extra Command and Control.
ali23
Sorry my bad but the polish and those Block 60 F-16s still don't have Israeli avionics.
schmuck
Spy aircraft has long nose as I expected.... LOLANI.GIF
aziqbal
QUOTE(Yahya @ Jul 10 2008, 10:50 AM) *


Stunning shoot! Wow
asamih
QUOTE(Yahya @ Jul 11 2008, 01:58 PM) *
actually other countries have that dorsal spine aswell.


UAE Block 60


Polish Block 52


All F-16 aircraft block 50/52 and the more advanced versions of the F-16 all have a dorsal spine.
asamih
QUOTE(Yahya @ Jul 11 2008, 12:25 AM) *
have you ever looked at a picture of a phalcon??


I have looked at a picture of a phalcon.
This spy plane is definately not an AWAC lol, it is as someone before me pointed out an AEW&C aircraft.

They are going to use these to scan Iranain territory and aircraft without facing any danger. Hone their jamming skills a little and launch the occasional intrusion for a survellaince mission.
asamih
QUOTE(Yahya @ Jul 11 2008, 12:26 AM) *
i doent understand, it CAN not carry out surveilance over Iran. the S300 is a POTENT SAM


Its not going to meet the S300. It will scan Iranian territory and aircraft and then launch intrusions into Iranian airspace (when no Iranian aircraft are detected) to spy on Iran. The S300 is a potent SAM but Iran has few S300s and all of these will be stationed at facilities and cities in the heart of Iran.
Yahya
QUOTE(asamih @ Jul 11 2008, 11:46 PM) *
i have looked at a picture of a phalcon.
This spy plane is definately not an AWAC lol, it is as someone before me pointed out an AEW&C aircraft.

They are going to use these to scan Iranain territory and aircraft without facing any danger. Hone their jamming skills a little and launch the occasional intrusion for a survellaince mission.


Its not going to meet the S300. It will scan Iranian territory and aircraft and then launch intrusions into Iranian airspace (when no Iranian aircraft are detected) to spy on Iran. The S300 is a potent SAM but Iran has few S300s and all of these will be stationed at facilities and cities in the heart of Iran.



1: a: yes the phalcon is a AWACs but slightly inferior to the ERIEYE.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ykXKqvio8BA

b: yes the the new "SPY PLANE" is also similer to ERIEYE.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TnUo1xew7-M


and heres the job ERIEYE does...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BOaxi2G0aNI


2: the S300 is a very advanced and versatile surface to air missile. here are some videos of it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KRmlHADio1Q
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LJaF8t7GQ2A
Gripen9
It is a Gulfstream G550 based version of Phalcon called Eitam or Sea Eagle. Apart from modifications to the Phalcon sensor suit, the G550 offers a lot of oprational economies over other airframes such as 737,Il-76, B767 etc which suits Israel and other potential customers. It was offered to both singapore and South Korea (for their E-X) requirement. However Unkil Sam forced them to go with the Boeing widgetail platform. See the link below at the development of various electrnoic warfare platforms based on the gulfstream aircraft. Although the info is a bit dated but it does have a cut away of Eitam in it as well.
SpyFlights

For Shehz---- bro I think IAI has bought a share in Gulfstream or has an agrrement with them as they have started to produce G150 and other Gulfstreams in Israel. So be sure to see new Israeli EW or even maritime patrol aircraft based on the Gulfstream.



penguin
oops
penguin
QUOTE(Shehz @ Jul 10 2008, 04:36 PM) *
Iran has carried out a second day of missile testing in the Gulf, pictures of which were shown on state TV.
The state media said several types of missiles were fired as well as a torpedo capable of hitting enemy submarines.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7499384.stm

Missile in this vid appears to be a SA-2 or chinese clone thereoff.
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